P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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My options settings are in the videos I posted.

I also think that this fix may not fix all DXGI hungs. But it at least fixes mine. I would be glad if it als fixed DXGI hungs of some other fellow simmers.

All Systems are different.

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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:30 pm My options settings are in the videos I posted.

I also think that this fix may not fix all DXGI hungs. But it at least fixes mine. I would be glad if it als fixed DXGI hungs of some other fellow simmers.

All Systems are different.

Karl
That's fine. You've fixed it for now. But the underlying issues remain. And as you add more and more addons you may experience it again.

We still need to find the root cause. Because Bathymetry ain't it.
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kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 pm No, I purchased all single components by myself and also OCed by myself.

Karl
@kaha ,

When posting a problem it would be helpful to mention you have a custom home built overclocked PC along with your system specs.
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The overclocking has no relevance for the problem.

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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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Martyson wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:05 am
kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 pm No, I purchased all single components by myself and also OCed by myself.

Karl
@kaha ,

When posting a problem it would be helpful to mention you have a custom home built overclocked PC along with your system specs.
I don't understand this train of thought. If the sim was stable in a previous version with an overclock, but it is unstable with the current version with the same overclock, then wouldn't it be the version that's the problem and not the overclock?
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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:57 pm I9-9900K overclocked to 5,0 on all cores. MSI 2080TI no OC. 32GB 3200, M.2 SSDs and SATA SSDs. 4K single monitor externaly synched to half frame rate in Nvidia Inspector.

If I have to test anomalies I disable overclocking of course. But now I'm back to 5,0GHz all cores with no problems.

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@ kaha ,

Is your custom home built overclocked PC water cooled?
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Martyson wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:42 am
kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:57 pm I9-9900K overclocked to 5,0 on all cores. MSI 2080TI no OC. 32GB 3200, M.2 SSDs and SATA SSDs. 4K single monitor externaly synched to half frame rate in Nvidia Inspector.

If I have to test anomalies I disable overclocking of course. But now I'm back to 5,0GHz all cores with no problems.

Karl
@ kaha ,

Is your custom home built overclocked PC water cooled?
What.... even...

is there any official support in this forum? Like LM Devs stop by? Or is it only enthusiasts defending the honor of the software?
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Flyprdu wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:11 am
Martyson wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:42 am
kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:57 pm I9-9900K overclocked to 5,0 on all cores. MSI 2080TI no OC. 32GB 3200, M.2 SSDs and SATA SSDs. 4K single monitor externaly synched to half frame rate in Nvidia Inspector.

If I have to test anomalies I disable overclocking of course. But now I'm back to 5,0GHz all cores with no problems.

Karl
@ kaha ,

Is your custom home built overclocked PC water cooled?
What.... even...

is there any official support in this forum? Like LM Devs stop by? Or is it only enthusiasts defending the honor of the software?
@ Flyprdu ,

After hours on the weekend?
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I think I'm off here.

Maybe my findings help someone or at least encourage someone who has the same problem to try to tweak his options for a possible temporary solution until this is fixed.

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Flyprdu wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:41 am
Martyson wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:05 am
kaha wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 pm No, I purchased all single components by myself and also OCed by myself.

Karl
@kaha ,

When posting a problem it would be helpful to mention you have a custom home built overclocked PC along with your system specs.
I don't understand this train of thought. If the sim was stable in a previous version with an overclock, but it is unstable with the current version with the same overclock, then wouldn't it be the version that's the problem and not the overclock?
@ Flyprdu ,

Overclocking was not the problem.
Do you recall what the fix was in this case for kaha's setup and his testing?
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kaha wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:33 am I think I'm off here.

Maybe my findings help someone or at least encourage someone who has the same problem to try to tweak his options for a possible temporary solution until this is fixed.

Karl
@ kaha ,

Important for others to try your fix, report their results and their system specs (unless already in their signature block).

It would be nice to find a user with the same system specs you have, including using overclocking, for a test.
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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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kaha wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:33 am I think I'm off here.

Maybe my findings help someone or at least encourage someone who has the same problem to try to tweak his options for a possible temporary solution until this is fixed.

Karl
Are you the same Kaha on the ORBX forums saying it was Buildings HD that is causing the error? And here you're saying it was Bathymetry that's causing the error.

I'm confused. I understand that you're trying to get to the bottom of it, but definitively declaring "X is the cause" isn't helpful. It will waste time and will lead us all on wild goose chases.
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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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Turning off Bathymetry seems to have helped my situation too.

To test:
- I removed all the other workarounds I had in place (Tdrlevel etc.)
- Loaded the sim (FSL A320, Flightbeam NZWN) with Bathymetry off. Loaded fine and no DXGI errors for about ~30mins
- Repeated this twice. No DXGI issues.
- Turned bathymetry back on. Loading the sim and an immediate DXGI error within 30s of loading the scenario above
- Ran this twice and the same outcome both times
- Turned bathymetry back off and it's fine again

There might be multiple issues, but this I reckon is one of them. Maybe it's specific to only some water areas, as I didn't get it at all airports and would sometimes get it over the middle of the ocean.

My specs are i7-10700k @ 5.0GHz, RTX 3090 24GB (factory clock), 32GB 3200MHz Corsair RAM, Z490 Mobo.

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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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@ Ah2511,

"Turning off Bathymetry seems to have helped my situation too."
" Loaded the sim (FSL A320, Flightbeam NZWN) with Bathymetry off. Loaded fine and no DXGI errors for about ~30mins"
Were you seeing this same type of problem presentation in past weeks?
Actually getting the error at any time in not good.

In the past was Bathymetry On or Off in P3D Optioons?

Do you intend on just leaving it off, do your normal flights and report back?
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Re: P3D Hotfix 5.1 causes DXGI Graphics card error

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As I mentioned previously, my DXGI issue occurs if I turn Enhanced Atmospherics to Ultra - that is reproducible, and happens for a default Mooney with G1000 aircraft.

I will do a bathemetry test, however I agree, there still seems to be a few factors causing this.

My GPU driver is up-to-date
Windows 10 is 2004
Two simple addons, both worked in V5.1 without error
No overclocking
Brand new hardware
No errors in intensive gaming applications
No errors in MSFS

P3D was stable previously with V5.1, the hotfix has broken something somewhere - I have posted so many error logs, checked my system settings it's now time for some acknowledgement that the issue exists from Lockheed Martin?
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