5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:17 pm
Martyson wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:34 pm
zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:23 pm

I've had it happen into FlyTampa CYYZ and CYUL, Simaddons CYQM, and Flightbeam KMSP.

Happened in both PMDG NGXu and FSLabs A320. Running AS, Simtoolkit, GSX, ORBX NA
@ zdvet ,

What is Simtoolkit ?


I would like to do a test.

What are you doing at Flightbeam KMSP / PMDG NGXu, when you have the problem?

Note:
I have P3Dv5.3 Academic, Orbx NA, Flightbeam KMSP and PMDG NGXu but I am not using Active Sky beta or GSX.
All of the stuttering has started right after top of descent.

Simtoolkit is an external logbook/tracking/flight planning tool. No issues with it in 5.2
@ zdvet ,

At TOD, was it unflyable, CTD or just some stuttering and possibly some FPS dip?
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Unplayable and continued to deteriorate.

https://youtu.be/3fCRpFxRVEg
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:05 pm Unplayable and continued to deteriorate.

https://youtu.be/3fCRpFxRVEg
@ @ zdvet ,

Which P3D version in your video?

Video , was TOD 5000 feet (on the PFD )?
I was expecting a flight / TOD like 100nm out ... not even in KMSP scenery area yet?

Trying to make a plan with STAR / APPR / for a test flight in PMDG737NGXu into KMSP.

Like where were you in the video (on the ND)?

I will try the same?

Did you have video software running during your entire flight?

I do have video software but normally do not use it on a flight.
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Martyson wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:14 pm
zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:05 pm Unplayable and continued to deteriorate.

https://youtu.be/3fCRpFxRVEg
@ @ zdvet ,

Which P3D version in your video?

Video , was TOD 5000 feet (on the PFD )?
I was expecting a flight / TOD like 100nm out ... not even in KMSP scenery area yet?

Trying to make a plan with STAR / APPR / for a test flight in PMDG737NGXu into KMSP.

Like where were you in the video (on the ND)?

I will try the same?

Did you have video software running during your entire flight?

I do have video software but normally do not use it on a flight.
No video software except to record this clip. Running P3D 5.3

This clip was taken right as joining the ILS 30L but the sim was behaving this way all the way from TOD. I was hoping slowing down for the approach and being in the vicinity of the airport might settle it down but it didn't.

TOD was about 100nm away from where the video was taken.
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:19 pm
Martyson wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:14 pm
zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:05 pm Unplayable and continued to deteriorate.

https://youtu.be/3fCRpFxRVEg
@ zdvet ,

Which P3D version in your video?

Video , was TOD 5000 feet (on the PFD )?
I was expecting a flight / TOD like 100nm out ... not even in KMSP scenery area yet?

Trying to make a plan with STAR / APPR / for a test flight in PMDG737NGXu into KMSP.

Like where were you in the video (on the ND)?

I will try the same?

Did you have video software running during your entire flight?

I do have video software but normally do not use it on a flight.
No video software except to record this clip. Running P3D 5.3

This clip was taken right as joining the ILS 30L but the sim was behaving this way all the way from TOD. I was hoping slowing down for the approach and being in the vicinity of the airport might settle it down but it didn't.

TOD was about 100nm away from where the video was taken.
@ zdvet ,
Thanks for the follow up.
You mentioned you are " Running P3D 5.3"?

I noticed in your video the Info text in the upper left corner has 4 lines of data (screenshot) ?
Very small letters so I could not read it.


My P3D5.3 has 3 lines of data.

Image
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Back to sim stuttering again and pausing with same addons in p3d 5.2 what is causing this please LM help I am not a paid tester I am not going to diagnose the problem since so many of us have it, it must be something in the 5.3 update. I have thousands of hours flying p3d v4 and v5 nothing is an issue compared to this 5.3 release. Orbx OpenLC Europe and assorted airport scenery that is it. Thank you.
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Sim locked up for 15 minutes! And came back... Please what is going on???

Is that due to a sloped runway in an airport scenery I was flying over? So every scenery with sloped runway enabled in the BGL will have this error causing stuttering and lock ups I see in Aerosoft's forum?
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:19 pm
Martyson wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:14 pm
zdvet wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:05 pm Unplayable and continued to deteriorate.

https://youtu.be/3fCRpFxRVEg
@ @ zdvet ,

Which P3D version in your video?

Video , was TOD 5000 feet (on the PFD )?
I was expecting a flight / TOD like 100nm out ... not even in KMSP scenery area yet?

Trying to make a plan with STAR / APPR / for a test flight in PMDG737NGXu into KMSP.

Like where were you in the video (on the ND)?

I will try the same?

Did you have video software running during your entire flight?

I do have video software but normally do not use it on a flight.
No video software except to record this clip. Running P3D 5.3

This clip was taken right as joining the ILS 30L but the sim was behaving this way all the way from TOD. I was hoping slowing down for the approach and being in the vicinity of the airport might settle it down but it didn't.

TOD was about 100nm away from where the video was taken.
Follow up information.

I flew the default F-22 into Flightbeam KMSP using P3Dv4.5HF3 and P3D5.3.
My FPS dipped (bounced around) 4 or 5 FPS once well into the KMSP ILS approach with both sim versions.
No FPS loss further away from the airport.
No loss of control or other problem.

I checked the Flightbeam KMSP user forum and there were no posts since last May.

You need to check again the P3D version you used in your video.

The number of Info text lines in your video suggest an earlier version of P3D.

To verify have a look at some of the P3Dv5.3 screenshots posted in the forum.
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Martyson wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:14 pm Follow up information.

I flew the default F-22 into Flightbeam KMSP using P3Dv4.5HF3 and P3D5.3.
My FPS dipped (bounced around) 4 or 5 FPS once well into the KMSP ILS approach with both sim versions.
No FPS loss further away from the airport.
No loss of control or other problem.

I checked the Flightbeam KMSP user forum and there were no posts since last May.

You need to check again the P3D version you used in your video.

The number of Info text lines in your video suggest an earlier version of P3D.

To verify have a look at some of the P3Dv5.3 screenshots posted in the forum.
I actually have 4 lines available too, since 5.3 btw
FPS shows on 4th line now.
CPU: Intel i7 12700K, MB: MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WiFi 4D
GPU: ASUS ROG RTX 3080, RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3600
OS: Win 11 FS: P3Dv5.3 HF2
Addons: Orbx, various Airports, FSLabs A320/SL, Active Sky (EA On), Chaseplane
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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@ ice75 ,

Follow up:
Here is what I see for
P3D5.3.12.28072 Academic

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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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Being as a different thread has been moved to this one, I woulkd like to add that Im (well my Sim actually is) also suffering from stuttering and freezes. It has happend in all flight phases, even during pre-flight waiting at the gate, my FPS suddenly dropped and the sim went into a stutter.

My hardware can be seen in my signature.

My software:
Win 11
P3D v5.3
Orbx Base, Global, Vector, LC, England, Germany North and South
Various Add-On Airports (Aerosoft/Sim-Wings, Justflight, Jennasoft, UK2000 and Orbx)
FSLabs A320 and A320-SL
GSX
Active Sky
REX for Cloud Textures and ASCA for Sky
Navigraph
Vatsim vPilot

My P3D Settings are mostly Medium, some settings Dense, EA and Road Traffic off, 8xMSAA or 4xSSAA.

Im using 3 monitors, one monitor for my Sim, the other 2 monitors for other programs such as Active Sky, Navigraph and vPilot.

I have tried various settings, nothing has helped unfortunately.

Edit: This is all on a completely clean installation of Win 11
CPU: Intel i7 12700K, MB: MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WiFi 4D
GPU: ASUS ROG RTX 3080, RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3600
OS: Win 11 FS: P3Dv5.3 HF2
Addons: Orbx, various Airports, FSLabs A320/SL, Active Sky (EA On), Chaseplane
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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I had the same poor performance like the other pilots here.
I solved it for me with following settings:

I erased the part with "Jobscheduler" in the P3d.cfg,
Set the Roadvehicles Slider to zero,
Set the Road Lights to none.
EA on, Volumetric clouds off
Frame Limiter to unlimited

Now I have around 30fps and it´s flyable

I7 8700K @4.7Ghz locked HT on
32Gb Ram
Nvidia RTX 3060 11Gb
Win 11
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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As requested from the "freezes mid flight version 5.3" thread, some details :

Fresh Windows 11, completely fresh P3Dv5.3 with ORBX Global and OpenLC Europe and two Addon Airports installed, Flytampa EHAM and Aerosoft EDDF.

Midway through every flight freezes/heavy stuttering for several minutes (fps going down to 4).

Just for testing I reverted to 5.2HF1 client (with new prepar3d.cfg of course) and the problem doesn't occur, it remains fluid.

An observation : I noticed VRAM at EHAM departure is 5.7/7.1 and to my surprise in 5.3 it remains there, even at 100NM away from the departure airport. That is not the case in 5.2.HF1.

Road traffic and and motion blur are inactive.

Gigabyte Aorus 17G Laptop, I7-10870H, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3080, latest NVidia driver 497.09
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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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What clock rate is your CPU running at?

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Re: 5.2 perfect, 5.3 long pausing and stuttering is unflyable

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JorgenSA wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:59 pm What clock rate is your CPU running at?
just stock 2.2GHz. No OC.

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