micro stutters - ATC window

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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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I can say with absolute certainty that SimConnect_Text triggers this problem.

The window is being drawn in a thread that is time-sensitive and taking too much time to render.

Regardless of FPS, the window is taking upwards of 50 ms to draw EACH FRAME. This a graphics engine problem, and something that only appears with EA ENABLED.

I can partially hang the simulator by calling it too often (it crashes the thread handling HDR rendering and the VC drawing calls when EA is enabled). The rest of the sim runs fine.

If you disable EA, then this problem "disappears".
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maca12
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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any improvement in v 5.2. ?
many thanks
JM
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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Yes its pontless same problem with AA .Do LM actually read people feedback and bug issues ? .
Atc stutters since html menu have been implemended
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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Are you seeing a stutter when opening the window or while it is open? We updated this window to HTML in 5.2, previously it was using Scaleform.

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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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Rob McCarthy wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:17 pm Are you seeing a stutter when opening the window or while it is open? We updated this window to HTML in 5.2, previously it was using Scaleform.

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Hello ,
When you open every simmconect window or html window like atc or gsx , exactley like 5.1
you have micro pauses , if you disable the text bar things go a bit smoother
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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Rob McCarthy wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:17 pm Are you seeing a stutter when opening the window or while it is open? We updated this window to HTML in 5.2, previously it was using Scaleform.

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Hi

Rob, I reported that since May 2020.

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopi ... 95#p229595

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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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For me, unfortunately the same as before.
When it is opening it causes microstutter (any window).... Once it is already open it is OK
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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maca12 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:33 pm For me, unfortunately the same as before.
When it is opening it causes microstutter (any window).... Once it is already open it is OK
JM
@ maca12 ,

I just tested P3Dv5.2 ATC windows and not microstutters.

Did you do a full install of P3Dv5.2?
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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no I have updated only client....
it needs to be tested in heavy area...
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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maca12 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:05 pm no I have updated only client....
it needs to be tested in heavy area...
@ maca12 ,

You previously mentioned only:

"Today I realize that I face a little microstutter always when I open or close ATC window....
Any similar experience ? Any possible solution (size of the window seems has no impact.... neither content of communication, just opening and closing it itself.....)'

Maybe after you do a full install of P3Dv5.2 you could test again.
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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updated also content and still micro-stutter when opening any window (GSX, ATC, ,,)

Is it to be solved in 5.2. and only I have this problem still because installation process, or it is still an issue for others also...?
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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Hello,

there are some changes in windows (ATC and others) in new version 5.3, however, I still little microstutter when I open ATC window (and other also)....
Do you have the same experience ? Was there any intention to fix it in this version ?
Many thanks for any observation.

JM
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Re: micro stutters - ATC window

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maca12 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:36 pm Hello,

there are some changes in windows (ATC and others) in new version 5.3, however, I still little microstutter when I open ATC window (and other also)....
Do you have the same experience ? Was there any intention to fix it in this version ?
Many thanks for any observation.

JM
Yes that problem has not been fixed since 5.0 Atc and simmconect windows still have a micostutter when opened.
I think Lm should give bete test versions to people that really test there sim from A to Z lol because there bete testers are not testing enough or reporting problems . Its been a bug for some time .....
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