[P3D 4.5 HF1] Sim reduces the LOD radius by one notch, forcing a reload while flying the PMDG748.

[JohnB]

And PMDG says it's not on their end, despite this only occurring with the PMDG 748. How it happens? There doesn't seem to be any trigger for it, I've had it happen 3 times so far, all in the 748. Basically I'm flying and at some point my simulator decides to reload itself, once it's done and I go check the settings, everything is ad before except the LOD radius, which is one notch lower.

I've also had some axes reset themselves while flying this plane..

Any idea what is causing this?

[Martyson]

And PMDG says it's not on their end, despite this only occurring with the PMDG 748. How it happens? There doesn't seem to be any trigger for it, I've had it happen 3 times so far, all in the 748. Basically I'm flying and at some point my simulator decides to reload itself, once it's done and I go check the settings, everything is ad before except the LOD radius, which is one notch lower.

I've also had some axes reset themselves while flying this plane..

Any idea what is causing this?

Not enough background information.

[JohnB]

And PMDG says it's not on their end, despite this only occurring with the PMDG 748. How it happens? There doesn't seem to be any trigger for it, I've had it happen 3 times so far, all in the 748. Basically I'm flying and at some point my simulator decides to reload itself, once it's done and I go check the settings, everything is ad before except the LOD radius, which is one notch lower.

I've also had some axes reset themselves while flying this plane..

Any idea what is causing this?

Not enough background information.

There isn't much else I can say.. its happened 3 times over 3 completely different areas with no apparent trigger .. it just would pause and then start reloading the sim... with lod radius one step lower.. I actually thought lowering the lod would solve this but it didn't, it just sent it one step lower

I don't know what other background information to provide.

[Martyson]

And PMDG says it's not on their end, despite this only occurring with the PMDG 748. How it happens? There doesn't seem to be any trigger for it, I've had it happen 3 times so far, all in the 748. Basically I'm flying and at some point my simulator decides to reload itself, once it's done and I go check the settings, everything is ad before except the LOD radius, which is one notch lower.

I've also had some axes reset themselves while flying this plane..

Any idea what is causing this?

Not enough background information.

There isn't much else I can say.. its happened 3 times over 3 completely different areas with no apparent trigger .. it just would pause and then start reloading the sim... with lod radius one step lower.. I actually thought lowering the lod would solve this but it didn't, it just sent it one step lower

I don't know what other background information to provide.

Well, which OS are you using?

[JohnB]

Windows 7 64bit

Latest updates and latest driver updates for GTX980 (This has occurred over multiple driver and update sets as well)

[Martyson]

Windows 7 64bit

Latest updates and latest driver updates for GTX980 (This has occurred over multiple driver and update sets as well)

Is your PC a user built (home built) PC?

[JohnB]

Windows 7 64bit

Latest updates and latest driver updates for GTX980 (This has occurred over multiple driver and update sets as well)

Is your PC a user built (home built) PC?

Yes, it's very old too.

P8P67 Deluxe
i7 2600k at 4.4GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
GTX 980 4GB

WD 10K RPM 1TB HDD

[Martyson]

Windows 7 64bit

Latest updates and latest driver updates for GTX980 (This has occurred over multiple driver and update sets as well)

Is your PC a user built (home built) PC?

Yes, it's very old too.

P8P67 Deluxe
i7 2600k at 4.4GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
GTX 980 4GB

WD 10K RPM 1TB HDD

I assume, the same PC / hardware you have reported problems on since 2017 with various version of P3D.

When you get any error or the current flight ends do you re-boot the PC before doing another test or flight?

[JohnB]

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Every P3D exit is seen as a CTD by windows when I load a PMDG plane.

[Martyson]

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Every P3D exit is seen as a CTD by windows when I load a PMDG plane.

"Every P3D exit is seen as a CTD by windows when I load a PMDG plane."
That is not normal.


What is the "Faulting Module Name " causing the CTD?

[downscc]

Your report of this problem is the first I've seen it in this or the PMDG forum. Maybe I missed it over there... regardless, be assured that if it were a PMDG B748 issue then there would be many dozens of such reports.

I don't see how any aircraft, addon or default, can trigger a scenery reload and change in display settings. Remember, correlation is not causation. Just because something seems to be related to something else does not mean that it is the cause. True, it is a clue and deserves a second look but if you don't look elsewhere I doubt you are going to find the source of your problem. This is more likely due to the fact that your system is being pushed to the limit by the very complex aircraft and something is over heating.

Check your operating temperatures when this happens. I like using the HWiNFO64 sensor package to monitor my system temps because it reports on everything including your board and video card.

Clean your filters, blow the dust out of the interior of your case. Where is the cat?

[JohnB]

Can P3D even drop the graphics settings by itself? If it was overheating the program would surely crash or blue screen, right?

I have to admit my system has been acting up a little lately but I have no clue is this is related in anyway . I had a crash with the 787 a few days ago in the 10th hour of a multi leg long haul with an error message saying something about a memory instruction write failure and a kernelbase.dll fault in the crash reporter.

[Martyson]

Additional information on checking your PMDG CTD:

If a program stopped working e.g., CTD (crashed to desktop):
Go to the Windows Event Viewer to see the
Faulting Module Name
that caused your problem.10/Oct/2019 12:2510/Oct/2019 12:25

In the lower left hand corner of your desktop
Click on:
Start
In the resulting search box type:
event viewer
select Event Viewer from the resulting pop up list
then look up your error
Here is an example screenshot.

[JohnB]

Here's one:

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.5.12.30293, time stamp: 0x5cd47aad
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.1.7601.24524, time stamp: 0x5d804572
Exception code: 0xc0020001
Fault offset: 0x000000000000b87d
Faulting process id: 0x21cc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d57f0e2ea714a1
Faulting application path: D:\Simulators\Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: 9a6564e4-eb02-11e9-b652-002683181534

Also just had another reload, this time right after vacating, same symptom, LODR down one notch.

[JohnB]

Here is my P3D cfg if it helps at all


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