Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

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Psaiko
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Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

Good evening together,

I´ve bought P3D V3.4.9 about 2 weeks ago after I had become my new computer.

Specs:
Intel Core I7 6700K (overcl. to 4.4 GHz)
Nvidia GeForce GTX1070, Palit Gamerock
16 GB Kingston DDR4-RAM (PC-2666)
MSI Z170A Gaming M3, Intel Z170
be quiet! Pure Power 600 Watt (80+)
Alpenföhn Brocken 2, Cooler

SSD 250GB Samsung 750 Evo MZ-750250
-> Windows 10 Pro
-> P3D (C:\Prepar3D\...)
-> Addons (C:\Programme (x86) and C:\Programme, like ORBX, Aerosoft)
-> Programs (like OpenOffice, Adobe Reader, CPU-Z in C:\Programme (x86) and C:\Programme)

1000GB S-ATA3, 600MB/Sek.
-> Addons (D:\Programme, like REX4 Texture Direct + Soft Clouds, Active Sky 16)

I have a guarantee for the computer for the next 3 years, bought it at www.agando-shop.de.



My addons:
ORBX FTX Global Base
ORBX FTX Global Base openLC Europe
ORBX FTX Trees HD

PMDG 737NGX (800/900)
EZDok Camera

REX4 Texture Direct + Soft Clouds HD
Active Sky 2016
Active Sky Cloud Art (not installed yet!)

Aerosoft Mega Airport Frankfurt V2
Aerosoft Mega Airport Zürich V2
Aerosoft Mega Airport Prague
Aerosoft Mega Airport Düsseldorf
Aerosoft Ibiza X Evolution
ORBX Stockholm Arlanda
FlyTampa Vienna

But: In the Scenery Library I´ve only activated EDDL (Mega Airport Düsseldorf) and the ORBX stuff. All the listed airports aren´t selected in the library.

I have bought all addons in the last few days and I make sure that every texture and sky addon is compatible to P3D.


Now I´d like to explain my problems:
I´ve set-up Windows 10 Pro about 12 times in the last 2 weeks. I´ve tried with Image.ISO, with fresh install of Windows 10, with everything. I had tweaked the config, I had put the settings up to max., reduce them to middle or low. I tried everything. But I have problems with the Autogen load, the most of my tries with blurry textures and with flickering textures. I also tried working with PTA-Tool and Ultimate Realism Pack 0.95 and 1.00. A friend tried to help me for hours(!) setting up my system, the P3D settings, NVIDIA settings, tweaking config. We also tried deleting the config and let P3D rebuild a new one. Everything. He said to me that he has a little lower system (PC) but never had these problems before and he helped a lot of people setting up their P3D to a good level. So I said "Maybe it´s the easiest way to contact someone over P3D Forum, they can help you!".

To show you where my problems are, I´ve uploaded a video on Youtube. I think it´s the easiest way to show you what I mean. Here´s the link: https://youtu.be/GS-qd-VUYOs (video quality isn´t the best but I hope you can see what I´d like to show you) -> please take a look into the youtube description, I´ve listed the addons which were using in the video.


These are the settings I used when I recorded the video. Of course I have tried to change the settings the last hours and days.
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This is my current config:

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[GRAPHICS]
SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10
VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=480
VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=360
VIDEO_CAPTURE_FPS=30
VIDEO_CAPTURE_BIT_RATE=800000
HDR_BRIGHTNESS=1.200000
HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.800000
HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000
TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000
TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.130000
HDR_SATURATION=1.100000
ViewGroup_Number=-1
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
TESSELLATION=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048
NUM_LIGHTS=4
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=1
HDR=1
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=3
TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=0
CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=4
OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=1
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
GROUND_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048
CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000
EFFECTS_QUALITY=1
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
HIGHMEMFIX=1
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=2
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
VolumetricFog=1
[DISPLAY]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
TEXTURE_FILTERING=16
MSAA=8
SSAA=0
VSYNC=0
FXAA=1
TRIPLE_BUFFER=0
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser=255,0,0
InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser=255,127,0
InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True
InfoCountermeasureEnable=True
InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=30
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
WideViewAspect=False
FullScreenBackground=True
FullScreenAutoFill=True
Fullscreen=False
[SCENERY]
MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=16
POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1
AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2
AUTOGEN_TREE_MAX_DRAW_DISTANCE=9500.000000
AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4
[MAIN]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar
LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter
Location=440,129,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=2
ShowInfoText=1
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0
PANEL_OPACITY=100
QUICKTIPS=1
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
PANELS_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[SlewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[SlewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[SlewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[Avatar]
DefaultAvatar=Civilian Male White Shirt Blue Jeans
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=1
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.0.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
[USERINTERFACE]
SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=1
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
RestoreTimeOnMove=1
ScreenshotImageFormat=0
Map_Orientation=2
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[SOUND]
PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=0
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
EnableRibbonVisuals=0
ShowRibbonUser=0
ShowRibbonGroundAI=0
ShowRibbonAircraftAI=0
RibbonFidelity=5.000000
RibbonMaxDistance=3218.689941
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=6.500000
TESSELLATION_FACTOR=85
MESH_RESOLUTION=22
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=27
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=3
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=2
UseGlobalTerrainView=False
[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
ShowATCText=1
PilotVoice=0
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A
COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000
[INTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=0
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=1.000000
Torque=1.000000
GyroEffect=1.000000
CrashTolerance=1.000000
General=1.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=False
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=True
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=True
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=True
CrashDetection=False
OnCrashAction=0
[ATTACHMENTS]
WeaponHighlight=False
HighlightDuration=1.000000
AutoWeaponSwitching=False
UnlimitedWeapons=False
UnlimitedCountermeasures=False
IgnoreAttachmentWeight=True
IgnoreAttachmentForces=True
[RECORDER]
RecordAITraffic=True
RecordAirportVehicles=True
RecordLeisureBoats=True
[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=0
OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1
[STARTUP]
DEMO=0
STARTUP_DEMO=
LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1
LoadCorePlugins=1
LoadWindow=1
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[MISC]
Com_Rate=7
[MOUSE]
EnableGestures=False
[MULTICHANNEL]
condAccountPassword=0
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccountPassword=0
FrameSyncRate=0
I hope you can help me fixing my problems. Maybe it is a hardware issue, but if it is, I dont know how to find out. But the PC is 2 weeks old so I don´t think that there is a hardware issue. But who knows.

First thank you for reading this and trying to help me. If you need some more information, please let me know. I´ll reply soon. And sorry if not everything is in correct english, but I´m from Germany.

Greetings from Germany,

Ron
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Afterburner SST
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Afterburner SST »

Have you tested Prepar3D before installing the scenery add-ons to find out whether you had the autogen popping with a fresh installation? This would help diagnose whether it is due to P3d itself or whether an add-on messed up with your setup. For instance, I see an entry in your prepar3d.cfg that is not there by default (HIGHMEMFIX=1), so I suspect an add-on could manipulate your configuration files.
Psaiko
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

I think the problem with the config entry is because I have installed Ground Services X. It seems that GSX installed a Addon Manager too which have add this entry.

I'm really sure that when I clearly installed P3D I had the same issues, but I can try later, then I'll setup Windows again. I guess I have to do it anyway when I like to fix the issues with your help.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by simmerhead »

You have a much more powerful computer than the ones I use.

As others have said. Test performance in P3D BEFORE you add any addons. Good places to stress test are over huge cities with lots of airports. Tokyo, New York, London and Paris are perfect.

When you have a vanilla P3D properly tuned, then you can start adding addons, then test again. You'll soon discover that some addons can destroy performance.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

Okay, so I´ll setup my IMAGE.ISO which I had made when I got the computer two weeks ago and then I´ll install P3D solo. Maybe I can find the issues. If there is any autogen issue with P3D solo on my system, I´ll make a video and contact you again.


So one other question: Is it better to install P3D in C:\P3D\... or in C:\Programme (x86)\Prepar3D\... ?
Or maybe should I install P3D on my 1 TB HDD solo and only use it for P3D? Or is it better to install P3D on the 250GB SSD with other programs on the SSD like OpenOffice, Adobe, of course Windows 10, ... ?
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Afterburner SST »

It is definitely better to install Prepar3D on your SSD (=faster loading times) under [Drive Letter]:\P3D\...
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

Its on its way, so I will make few tests in the next hour. If there are the same issues again, I´ll reply here and also I´ll upload a video again on youtube to show you where my issues are.

Greetings and thank you very much for your fast help.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by pmb »

I would delete (after saving) prepar3d.cfg and let Prepar3d create a new one. This has helped me and others in a number of odd cases.

While I like the FSDT/FB airports very much, that Addon Manager has always been a monster (and I suppose will remain one forever). Aside the fact I dislike having to activate scenery from within the simulator, it allows to corrupt your complete settings by just one unfortunate click.

Kind regards, Michael
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

Hello,

thanks for your reply. It was the first step I had done: deleting config. But that brought no result.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Psaiko »

Okay autogen still popping. I don't know why. Tried to change the settings but still there on clear installed P3D.

Anyone here who has a idea why the issues are there? Or may anybody can help me trying to configure my sim via teamviewer? Would be very thankful.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by Afterburner SST »

Do you have all autogen buildings popping up (even small ones), or only tall buildings or skyscrapers? I know that the pop-free autogen feature only applies to autogen buildings, non tall inner city buildings (that are affected by "Scenery Complexity" settings).

Also, when you reinstalled P3D, did you delete all associated folders (Program Data, Local, Roaming, etc.) before doing so?
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

Post by rsm »

I suspect the latest version of Virtuali's ADD ON MANAGER (which comes with GSX among several payware airport add-ons could well be your culprit.

I have a system a little bit further upgraded than yours (Titan X Pascal) and I also get the blurry textures and popping autogen following installation of latest add-on manager in P3D (this add-on manager is NOT a Lockheed Martin product!)

I am reverting to a backup image I made way back in mid december prior to installing the latest add-on manager. I will then re-fly my typical test flight KPSP to KPHX and see if performance is improved.

If so, I will post a warning about the add-on manager. Whatever happens NEVER click DEFAULT SETTINGS in add-on manager. Doing so will alter your P3D config file and (in my opinion) NOT in a good way.
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Re: Problems with popping autogen, blurry textures, ...

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Your specs:
Intel Core I7 6700K (overcl. to 4.4 GHz)
Nvidia GeForce GTX1070, Palit Gamerock
16 GB Kingston DDR4-RAM (PC-2666)
MSI Z170A Gaming M3, Intel Z170
be quiet! Pure Power 600 Watt (80+)
Alpenföhn Brocken 2, Cooler

I would not be overclocking with your PSU.
Windows10Pro 22H2 Build 19045.2728/Corei7-3770K/GigabyteGA-Z68XP-UD3/GSkill32GBDDR3CL7-8-8-24/AsusRTX2070 OC/1TBCrucialMX500SSD/(x3)1TBRAWMushkinSSDs/LGBlueRayDL/RosewillChallengerTower/CorsairRM750w/X56HOTAS/InateckKU5211/TM2xMFDCougar/OculusQuest2
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