Autogen delayed loading v4

[Dazza60]

Gday
The addons I am running are ORBX global, vector, HD trees, ORBX Australia, open LC Europe, open LC North America and a couple of other regions.
When i said i didnt get this in v3 i meant sure i got the usual popping of autogen, but never did i have slow loading of autogen like it is doing now, and never did i have autogen fill in like blocks in the distance, and look behind to see blocks of autogen (mainly urban areas like buildings etc) dissappear.

[Dazza60]

Also forgot to add i'm also running AS2016, ASCA, ENVTEX and PTA tool.

[windowseat73]

I'm sorry everyone but I'm done. Returning v4 now and will get it once these and other bugs are worked out.

[Martyson]

Gday
The addons I am running are ORBX global, vector, HD trees, ORBX Australia, open LC Europe, open LC North America and a couple of other regions.
When i said i didnt get this in v3 i meant sure i got the usual popping of autogen, but never did i have slow loading of autogen like it is doing now, and never did i have autogen fill in like blocks in the distance, and look behind to see blocks of autogen (mainly urban areas like buildings etc) dissappear.

You said:
"Having the very same problems as in Michael's video. It really is ruining the experience. Didn't have this problem in V3."

I tested P3Dv3 and I get the same results as Michael's P3Dv4 video.

[Dazza60]

Well I guess we differ then, because i didnt have this autogen slowly loading in blocks in v3.

[pmb]

I tested P3Dv3 and I get the same results as Michael's P3Dv4 video.

Sorry I have to disagree here, too.

I made another video in Prepar3d3:

http://michael-basler.net/Flight_Simula ... par3d3.mp4

I had the same software installed with one exception, FTX KSQL, not yet being ready for Prepar3d4. Comparison of both videos clearly shows:

(i) Autogen radius in Prepar3d has been much short than in Prepar3d4 (as we all know).

(ii) Autogen did NOT load in patches in Prepar3d but fade in softly.

(iii) The black buildings have been present in Prepar3d3 already (see close to the end of the video).

This has to be taken with a grain of salt, as some settings in Prepar3d3 have been lower than the corresponding ones in Prepar3d4. However, I already tried lower settings in Prepar3d4 (in an attempt of mimicking those of Prepar3d3), and the autogen loading in patches remained.

I would kindly ask LM to look into the issue, and based on the fact it has been missing in Prepar3d, it should be resolvable.

Kind regards, Michael

[Martyson]

"I made another video in Prepar3d3:"

What is it supposed to show?

"ii) Autogen did NOT load in patches in Prepar3d but fade in softly."

I showed an airport that poped into view in P3Dv3 and V4 .. what do you call that?

[pmb]

I am not at all speaking about popping in of airports. I refer to the area where autogen is present and the one where it is not yet present. I think that's what most of the people refer to here.

This area with autogen is extended suddently in large patches in Prepar3d4 while it was smoothly (albeit at a closer radius) extended in Prepar3d3.

Please tell me, if the videos do not make clear this point. I am not at all a specialist in video-capturing, however, I would try to provide higher-resolution videos in case the gist is not clear from the ones given above.

Kind regards, Michael

[zap737]

"I made another video in Prepar3d3:"

What is it supposed to show?

"ii) Autogen did NOT load in patches in Prepar3d but fade in softly."

I showed an airport that poped into view in P3Dv3 and V4 .. what do you call that?

No, I have to disagree with Martyson here.

I agree with pmb and others. I watched both videos and the autogen loading (suburban houses and buildings) in the distance is much smoother in V3, albeit with a much smaller LOD radius, than in v4. You can clearly see in the distance the way it loads in blocks in V4 versus V3.

The airport with the black buildings is a known issue and not what pmb and others are referring to.

[Martyson]

"This area with autogen is extended suddently in large patches in Prepar3d4 while it was smoothly (albeit at a closer radius) extended in Prepar3d3."

Is this the same as the autogen problem since FSX that I still observe it today?


Previously I did two test based on your first video ... with Black buildings popping vertically for a second ...

One flight in P3Dv4 and later in P3Dv3.

What I seen was the same autogen popping (a few closely clustered black buildings in a specific location and airport detail popup) ... same looking scenery to me and problems in both tests.

Maybe by definition I was not looking for the same problem you are observing.

None the less .. P3Dv3 and V4 looked the same to me from the Spot plane view.

On a normal flight from the VC cockpit I do not pay extremely close attention to the scenery detail.

[zap737]

I'm sorry everyone but I'm done. Returning v4 now and will get it once these and other bugs are worked out.

Yep, I have been holding off buying V4 and waiting to see which problems emerge.

I have been simming for many years and have learned that it is best to wait for quite some time until issues surface and have been resolved before diving in.

The frustration is simply not worth it. You spend more time problem-solving than flying.

I won't be buying V4 until this problem, and a few others have been resolved.

[Martyson]

"Yep, I have been holding off buying V4 and waiting to see which problems emerge."

I did not know you were not actually testing the autogen problem(s) mentioned in this post.

[zap737]

I did not know you were not actually testing the autogen problem(s) mentioned in this post.

I don't have to test it to find out what's wrong with it. The two videos which pmb posted show the problem clearly.

All I have to do is read the many posts regarding this problem and other problems. As I said, I have been simming for many years and have learned that it is best to wait for quite some time until issues surface and have been resolved before diving in.

These forums are a great source of information for those of us considering buying the product.

[pmb]

While I would never refrain from using Prepar3d4 because of its numerous improvements, notably w.r.t. performance and higher LOD, most of us seem to agree there is an issue with slow autogen loading in patches in Prepar3d4. There have been similar reports on other fora, e.g.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/5132 ... ly-p3d-v4/

I am afraid LM will not notice this at this place, as it's hidden under a pile of argument now. I hope someone being affected by this can make LM aware of the issue.

Thank you and kind regards, Michael

[ctroncy]

As I said, I have been simming for many years and have learned that it is best to wait for quite some time until issues surface and have been resolved before diving in.

Bonjour zap737

Your way of thinking is wise but I wonder what would happen if everyone followed your advice.
Cheers
Claude