Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

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Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby Endyamon » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:24 pm

Hi....

I will try it one more time.

I have pointed out this issue from the version V2 - without result

last try.

Could it be fixed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4J6CpxQjlw

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4

Postby Brady Butler » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:16 pm

Hello J.Compel,

To help us track down this issue, do you still see this behavior if you turn cloud shadows off?

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4

Postby Endyamon » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:39 pm

I will try it


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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4

Postby Brady Butler » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:55 pm

Thanks for the response Endyamon, we'll open a ticket and see what can be done about it.

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4

Postby Brady Butler » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:02 pm

So it appears to already be a known issue. We have an open ticket regarding cloud shadows, currently it seems we made a trade off due to performance limitations with large numbers of clouds.

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby Rhett » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:29 pm

Hi all,

This behaviour does indeed go away when "cloud casting" shadows is turned off. Thus I can confirm that the problem exists when clouds are set to cast their shadows AND when objects (& the terrain) are set to receive shadows.

It is not related to changing weather / cloud position. It is directly related to the viewing angle - as one can effectively switch shadows on and off by moving the viewing angle back and forth a fraction - at any frequency and the results are the same.

It is also quite easy to replicate this problem - I really have no problem generating this behaviour every day when I fly. Its not a rare or infrequent event - it happens all the time (provided there are clouds). No clouds, no problem.

Really hoping that a solution can be found as the shadow features of P3Dv4 are (otherwise) awesome and I tend to fly in the early morning or evening - when the behaviour is apparent.

Otherwise, I must say that P3Dv4 is simply awesome.

Thanks and kind regards,
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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby Endyamon » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:27 am

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic ... 42#p147542

it would be nice finally resolve this issue..

Best regards J.Compel

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby stripealipe » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:19 pm

Thanks Brady, look forward to seeing what you can do... even some kind of performance slider for those with the machines to handle larger shadow loads would be amazing. Cheers!

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby Endyamon » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:43 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B2AVyk ... e=youtu.be

Is really interesting how clods shadows affect this (Without barriers - no clouds above plane)

rly annoying..

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby sidfadc » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:26 pm

Hi,

Brady asked me to post my video here and confirm that unticking cloud casting in the lighting options resolves the issue. I say resolves...I mean the light source doesn't change from dark to light, shadows on and off. I would much prefer to fly with cloud casting on because it looks a lot more realistic. The way the shadows behave though with this option on is quite irritating. Here's hoping for a fix soon.

https://youtu.be/4uCh2iJJdno

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby AnkH » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:01 am

I really wonder if this is a new phenomenon to v4. I think I remember that this was better in v3, but this might be simply wrong. Anyway: it is really interesting how little feedback this issue generates. Do most people fly with cloud shadows off? It is a major gamebreaker for me, still you read little about this in the forums around the world. Strange. I really hope this can be fixed already in v4.1...
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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby sidfadc » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:44 pm

Yea amen to that. I've come from FSX SE with DX10 fixer where the shadows around the VC where a LOT better, never saw this behaviour. Granted you could generate cloud shadows in through a DX10 add on but never tried that myself. But I know one thing with the light source changing and shadows appearing/disappearing when you pan the view its really irritating!

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby sunjunkiesi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:43 pm

So its been a while since this thread was raised, this issue has been here for me since day 1 with p3dv4 and it's not getting any less annoying. Has anyone come up with a fix for this yet?

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Re: Issue with shadows since P3D v2 to P3D v4 (Due To Cloud Shadows)

Postby sunjunkiesi » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:06 pm

Nothing?


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