[RESOLVED] Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

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jackts10
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[RESOLVED] Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:07 pm

Good day,
I have been experiencing blurry/hazy terrain problems. When I first got v4 everything was and looked great! but since the begging on July the textures have gone blurry and ugly to look at. The addons I use ( at the moment) is: PMDG 737,uk2000 and Aerosoft Mykonos. I have had these since the begging and no problems. Bare in mind this did not happen to me in Version 3 of P3D. Any tips? I will show my PC specs:

Intel Core I5-4590 @3.30ghz
8gb Ram
64-bit
Nivida GeForce GTX760
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Here is my Prepar3D.cfg file:
[BUFFERPOOLS]
UsePools=1
PoolSize=250000
[GRAPHICS]
SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10
VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=720
VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=480
VIDEO_CAPTURE_FPS=30
VIDEO_CAPTURE_BIT_RATE=3200000
VIDEO_CAPTURE_IS_THREADED=True
VIDEO_CAPTURE_INFO_SEND_RATE=20
VIDEO_CAPTURE_MAX_FRAME_SIZE=500000
VIDEO_CAPTURE_TTL=255
HDR_BRIGHTNESS=1.090000
HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.810000
HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000
TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000
TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.130000
HDR_SATURATION=1.000000
MAX_POINT_LIGHTS=250
MAX_SPOT_LIGHTS=250
ViewGroup_Number=-1
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=0
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096
NUM_LIGHTS=4
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DYNAMIC_LIGHTING=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=0
HDR=1
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=3
SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=0
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=0
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=0
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=0
PARTICLES_SHADOWS_CAST=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
OPAQUE_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048
TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512
OPAQUE_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
TRANSLUCENT_SHAD0W_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000
EFFECTS_QUALITY=0
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=0
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=1
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
VolumetricFog=1
DetailedPrecipitation=1
[DISPLAY]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
TextureMaxLoad=30
TEXTURE_FILTERING=2
MSAA=2
SSAA=0
VSYNC=1
FXAA=0
TRIPLE_BUFFER=1
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=30
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=True
FullScreenBackground=False
FullScreenAutoFill=True
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser=255,0,0
InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser=255,127,0
InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoWeaponSystemEnable=True
InfoCountermeasureEnable=True
InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True
Fullscreen=False
[SCENERY]
AUTOGEN_DRAW_DISTANCE=12000.000000
AUTOGEN_TREE_DRAW_DISTANCE_PERCENT=0.900000
AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000
MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=16
POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1
AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_TYPE=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=2
options_parts=1
sysclock=0
[MAIN]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar
LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter
ShowInfoText=1
Location=440,129,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=2
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0
MAX_VC_TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=1024
PANEL_OPACITY=100
QUICKTIPS=0
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
PANELS_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[SlewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[SlewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[SlewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[Avatar]
DefaultAvatar=Army Infantry
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0
[USERINTERFACE]
RestoreTimeOnMove=1
SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1
BroadcastGPSData=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
ScreenshotImageFormat=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=1
Map_Orientation=2
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (192-bit).0.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=0
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0
[AContain]
ShowLabels=0
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
EnableRibbonVisuals=0
ShowRibbonUserObject=0
ShowRibbonUserAvatar=0
ShowRibbonAircraft=0
ShowRibbonGroundVehicles=0
ShowRibbonBoats=0
ShowRibbonAvatars=0
ShowRibbonWeapons=0
ShowRibbonCountermeasures=0
UserObjectRibbonColor=FFFF0000
UserAvatarRibbonColor=FFFF8000
AircraftRibbonColor=FF0000FF
GroundVehicleRibbonColor=FF00FF00
BoatRibbonColor=FF00FFFF
AvatarRibbonColor=FFFFFF00
WeaponRibbonColor=FF800000
CountermeasureRibbonColor=FF640080
RibbonFidelity=5.000000
RibbonMaxDistance=3218.689941
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
TESSELLATION_FACTOR=75
MESH_RESOLUTION=21
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=2
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=2
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=0
UseGlobalTerrainView=False
SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2
UseGlobalTerrainView=True
[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
ShowATCText=1
PilotVoice=0
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A
COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000
[INTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=0
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=1.000000
Torque=1.000000
GyroEffect=1.000000
CrashTolerance=0.000000
General=1.000000
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=True
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=False
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=True
GEffect=True
ManualLights=True
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=True
CrashDetection=False
AvatarNoCollision=True
OnCrashAction=0
[ATTACHMENTS]
WeaponHighlight=False
HighlightDuration=1.000000
AutoWeaponSwitching=False
UnlimitedWeapons=False
UnlimitedCountermeasures=False
IgnoreAttachmentWeight=True
IgnoreAttachmentForces=True
[RECORDER]
RecordAITraffic=True
RecordAirportVehicles=True
RecordLeisureBoats=True
[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=0
OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1
[SOUND]
SOUND=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
[STARTUP]
DEMO=0
STARTUP_DEMO=
LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1
LoadCorePlugins=1
LoadWindow=1
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=4096
[MISC]
Com_Rate=7
[MULTIPLAYER]
FrameSyncRate=0
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Some more information:
I have tried all different settings and still got the same result.
I am on the latest drivers. I have also tried rolling back to a older one.
I am not on the Hotfix 1 (as of now)
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Here are multiple screenshots of the sim.
http://imgur.com/bPtCxc6
http://imgur.com/Zl9qhc6
http://imgur.com/xbNmclf
http://imgur.com/GOFHcqL
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Here are screenshots of my settings:
http://imgur.com/VhQ3EoR
http://imgur.com/8fLSezX
http://imgur.com/XCNjkr0
http://imgur.com/onXj9lc
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I hope all this info is useful. I hope you can help:)

Many Thanks,
Jack Sparrowhawk
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Rob McCarthy
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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby Rob McCarthy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:42 pm

Were any new add-ons installed at this time or were there any updates installed for any of these add-ons? I also recommend installing the hotfix and seeing if the issue persists.

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jackts10
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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:43 pm

Were any new add-ons installed at this time or were there any updates installed for any of these add-ons? I also recommend installing the hotfix and seeing if the issue persists.

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Rob McCarthy
There were addons installed at the begging with no problems but at that specific time yes

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby Rob McCarthy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:20 pm

Is the blurry terrain photoreal? We are currently looking into an issue where photoreal scenery can be blurry in some cases.

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby hermes82 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:13 pm

something you might consider changeing is FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01, it doesnt give much time to the cpu and does cause blurries, try increasing it to something higher ie 0.05 and work your way up, it will reduce your frame rates but fps v blurries, i'd prefer to settle for a lower frame rate and no blurries

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:16 pm

Is the blurry terrain photoreal? We are currently looking into an issue where photoreal scenery can be blurry in some cases.

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Rob McCarthy
No it is default scenery

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:16 pm

something you might consider changeing is FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01, it doesnt give much time to the cpu and does cause blurries, try increasing it to something higher ie 0.05 and work your way up, it will reduce your frame rates but fps v blurries, i'd prefer to settle for a lower frame rate and no blurries
Thanks ill give it a go:)

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:06 pm

something you might consider changeing is FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01, it doesnt give much time to the cpu and does cause blurries, try increasing it to something higher ie 0.05 and work your way up, it will reduce your frame rates but fps v blurries, i'd prefer to settle for a lower frame rate and no blurries
Hello,
I have tried this from 0.01 to 0.05 that made no difference then tried to 1.00 that made no difference

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby Afterburner SST » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:02 pm

Why do you use the BUFFERPOOLS tweak in your cfg? It might have been useful in FSX, but I don't know what it does in P3D.

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jjaycee » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:11 am

I strongly suggest that you remove your current P3D cfg to the desktop and allow the sim to build a new one. It will be without the additional "tweaks" you have added like the BufferPools.
See if it then becomes OK visually.
I use the default P3D cfg and then only change my options in the sims Options settings pages, like World, Display, Traffic, Shadows, FPS unlimited etc and save. This data then becomes your new cfg. No "tweaks" like BufferPools or Affinity Mask,Job Scheduler are required on most systems, dependent of course on your PC specs. The specs need to be quite high and at LEAST as per LM's recommended specs for v4.

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby jackts10 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:02 pm

I strongly suggest that you remove your current P3D cfg to the desktop and allow the sim to build a new one. It will be without the additional "tweaks" you have added like the BufferPools.
See if it then becomes OK visually.
I use the default P3D cfg and then only change my options in the sims Options settings pages, like World, Display, Traffic, Shadows, FPS unlimited etc and save. This data then becomes your new cfg. No "tweaks" like BufferPools or Affinity Mask,Job Scheduler are required on most systems, dependent of course on your PC specs. The specs need to be quite high and at LEAST as per LM's recommended specs for v4.
Hello,
I have tried that and I am pleased to say that is has resolved 95% of my problem:) The other problem is late loading auto-gen?

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Re: Prepar3d V4 blurry terrain

Postby Rob McCarthy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:26 pm

Glad to hear your terrain issue is resolved. There is a post discussing autogen loading here: http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=125808. Improving autogen performance is something we're looking into. Note that by default much more autogen is loaded and displayed in v4 which will make this issue more apparent in some cases.

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