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Bookman
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Post Its finally beat me
on: June 17, 2012, 14:47

Thanks for your help but the programme has finally beaten me. I have FS9, X-plane 9 and 10 on this machine and they all run very well. I have both versions of FSX but neither work very well. So I will delete this programme, after three days of trying to get it to work - just to much hassle.

My specs are:

i5-2500k 4 core, 8GB Ram, Nividia GTX 560 Graphics card. Windows 7 64 bit.

I reckon this should run this programme ok but it seems not. Sad really as I would like to see Prepare3D in action. Anyway, FS9 goes good and X-Plane 9 and X work well so I must be content.

Thanks again
Danny

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on: June 17, 2012, 19:16

What is the problem, crash , bad performance, install???

Jorge

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on: June 18, 2012, 00:43

G'day Jorge. There is definitely evidence building that in it's present format P3D and FSX share computer resources even when not running. It is beyond my capabilities to determine where the conflicts are and/or why but I feel certain they exist.

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v4moose
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on: June 18, 2012, 09:37

you did do the fsx/prepar3d optimisation through your CFG right? doign that and disabling bathymetry doubled my FPS...

Quote from Arismac on June 18, 2012, 00:43
G'day Jorge. There is definitely evidence building that in it's present format P3D and FSX share computer resources even when not running. It is beyond my capabilities to determine where the conflicts are and/or why but I feel certain they exist.

what evidence? they install to different folders, different reg keys, different processes...

I'd be pretty peeved if FSX or prepared was using my system resources when not running, some how I don't think that's the case!

Bookman
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on: June 18, 2012, 13:09

Nope, no optimise through CFG. as I was not aware of this tweak or informed for that matter. I naturally assumed that the programme would install and work. Well it does work until I try to go into settings or weather and then it crashes. If there are tweaks should not they be in the install already so that you can use the programme from install.

Danny

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on: June 19, 2012, 03:31

Do you run in windowed mode or in fullscreen mode. If you run full screen, change to windowed, that gives me better performance, better grafics and less problems.
I do have crashes when accessing several dialogs, and then press OK, in the US East coast area, and only there, which I do not understand at all. They have to do with the amount of data to process...

Bookman
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on: June 19, 2012, 13:02

No, sorry it just does not allow me to change anything. I am in windows mode but the whole of the screen and it looks like 768Xwhatever it was. The programme will run and I can change acf but that is all. If I want to do anything else it just crashes. I am redownloading again and will try to re-install but this might well be the last time for me.

Thanks

Danny

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on: June 19, 2012, 13:44

when you have it reinstalled. run this - it works equally well for Prepar3d. Disable bathymetry is you're not interested below in the sea.

http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html

If the app does crash again. go to control panel, administrative tools, event viewer, windows logs, application. look for an application error and tell us what it says. It will look similar to

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 30-May-12 11:17:14 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Adam-PC
Description:
Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb14
Faulting module name: HsSrv.dll, version: 1.0.10.323, time stamp: 0x4ba86d1c
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000010ba
Faulting process id: 0x1894
Faulting application start time: 0x01cd3e1055bf6ca2
Faulting application path: D:\Installed Apps\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\HsSrv.dll
Report Id: f35f4d99-aa05-11e1-99a1-002522e0ad86

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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 19, 2012, 14:11

Make sure that if you have Windows 7 that you are running this as Administrator. Right click on the EXE and select 'run as Administrator'.

Bookman
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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 19, 2012, 14:12

Thanks for advise, will install and inform as to the outcome.

Thanks

Danny

Bookman
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on: June 19, 2012, 15:57

Ok, I have just re-installed and still get the same. Here is the log file:

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 19/06/2012 20:48:28
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Dannys
Description:
Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 1.3.3708.0, time stamp: 0x4f516cc9
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.1.7601.17651, time stamp: 0x4e211319
Exception code: 0xe0434352
Fault offset: 0x0000b9bc
Faulting process id: 0xf6c
Faulting application start time: 0x01cd4e5421fe958f
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\syswow64\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: bd06b948-ba47-11e1-84ca-50e549436acd
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-06-19T19:48:28.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>612299</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Dannys</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>Prepar3D.exe</Data>
<Data>1.3.3708.0</Data>
<Data>4f516cc9</Data>
<Data>KERNELBASE.dll</Data>
<Data>6.1.7601.17651</Data>
<Data>4e211319</Data>
<Data>e0434352</Data>
<Data>0000b9bc</Data>
<Data>f6c</Data>
<Data>01cd4e5421fe958f</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D\Prepar3D.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Windows\syswow64\KERNELBASE.dll</Data>
<Data>bd06b948-ba47-11e1-84ca-50e549436acd</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

I also have this from Details:
Prepar3D.exe
1.3.3708.0
4f516cc9
KERNELBASE.dll
6.1.7601.17651
4e211319
e0434352
0000b9bc
f6c
01cd4e5421fe958f
C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D\Prepar3D.exe
C:\Windows\syswow64\KERNELBASE.dll
bd06b948-ba47-11e1-84ca-50e549436acd

Hope this helps.

Regards

Danny

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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 19, 2012, 19:08

Danny is this new install also a new fresh download, it seems to me you have acorrupted download.

Jorge

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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 20, 2012, 09:04

aeronauto - if it installed correctly the download should not be corrupted - also the crash is coming from a different DLL.

it may be an issue with C++ libraries - run windows update and make sure everything is up to date

then

The System File Checker tool
To determine whether the issue that you are experiencing is caused by one or more system files that are used by Windows Vista, run the System File Checker tool. The System File Checker tool scans system files and replaces incorrect versions of the system files by using the correct versions.

To run the System File Checker tool, follow these steps:
Click Start, and then type cmd in the Start Search box.
Right-click cmd in the Programs list, and then click Run as administrator.

If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type your password or click Continue
At the command prompt, the following line, and then press ENTER:
sfc /scannow

and at last resort do this

gkair2 said:
Open CMD prompt and right click to run as administrator and then type in exactly as below substituting your windows login username where it says "username:" eg. "Andrew:F" or "Sarah:F"
takeown /f C:\Windows\System32\uiautomationcore.dll
cacls C:\Windows\System32\uiautomationcore.dll /G username:F
takeown /f C:\Windows\Syswow64\uiautomationcore.dll
cacls C:\Windows\Syswow64\uiautomationcore.dll /G username:F
Now you can just navigate to your syswow64 and system32 folders in windows explorer and after backing up the UIautomationcore.dll files just delete them from your computer. (Remember to delete the Uiatomationcore.dll file in ure FSX folder also if you installed it as the fix in other posts.)

let us know how you go. cheers

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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 20, 2012, 13:25

Dear captains,
!! Don't remove uiautomationcore.dll !! This was a tric for FSX in 2010 with old versions of the dll when switching between multiple views causes a crash; At that time the event viewer indicated this dll as the cause of crashing FSX. Now: For Windows 7, the API has been rewritten in the Component Object Model (COM).
http://janvaane.org/virtualfsx/?p=4274
If you want to dive into deep, read this for a start
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee684076(v=vs.85).aspx

APPCRASH-es with kernelbase .dll's can only be solved through installation of P3D in the correct path WITH the correct security privileges, the correct versions of MSXML and .NET Framework 4.0, both including Windows Update to be up-to-date. Check your DirectX version by typing DXDIAG + ENTER in the START field of W7. (Current DirectX Version with W7= DirectX 11)
Of course you need to check if your download P3D zips are MD5 compliant.
http://janvaane.org/virtualfsx/?page_id=6242
When that's OK, just fire up the sim as Run as administrator ...and that has noting to do with the fact that you are already have an Administrator account...

Jan Vaane - http://flightsimeindhoven.nl/?page_id=6715

Bookman
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Post Re: Its finally beat me
on: June 20, 2012, 13:49

I did an update and then scannow and then removed the uiatomationcore.dll from both 32 and 64 folders, rebooted and went into window mode and alas it still crashes when trying to enter settings. I have now deleted 3D's cfg file and started again but again no go, it still CTD as soon as I try to enter settings.

Have tried to run in Vista compatability and XP as well but still no luck. So very frustrating.

Regards to all who have helped.

Danny

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